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	<title>Comments on: Shell&#8217;s Bizarre Definition Of Sustainability</title>
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	<description>Exposing Ethical Hypocrites Everywhere!</description>
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		<title>By: Oil firms - past &#38; present ills &#171; Yet another blog again</title>
		<link>http://thesietch.org/mysietch/keith/2008/01/09/shells-bizarre-definition-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-1414</link>
		<dc:creator>Oil firms - past &#38; present ills &#171; Yet another blog again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 06:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s bizzare definition of sustainability , how can one forget the Indonesian Mess. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://thesietch.org/mysietch/keith/2008/01/09/shells-bizarre-definition-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In which case, Jean, the ISO must remove all references to sustainability and environmental management from ISO 14001. Sustainability is absolute and does not reference any laws: if it causes a net degradation of the environment then it is not sustainable.

Legislation will do nothing to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels as it is not in the interests of governments to bite the hands of their masters.

Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In which case, Jean, the ISO must remove all references to sustainability and environmental management from ISO 14001. Sustainability is absolute and does not reference any laws: if it causes a net degradation of the environment then it is not sustainable.</p>
<p>Legislation will do nothing to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels as it is not in the interests of governments to bite the hands of their masters.</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Cannon</title>
		<link>http://thesietch.org/mysietch/keith/2008/01/09/shells-bizarre-definition-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is always a debate when an operation that is not environmentally friendly does ISO 14001.  Shell&#039;s operation is no different.

My take on this is that to pass their audit the Company have to demonstrate that they comply with the law and all their license conditions and to embark on a cycle of continuous improvement.  This has to be good.

The Problem you are complaining about is that the regulators are permitting the activity, not that Shell is doing it in as responsible a way as possible.

Of course we all know that we must reduce our reliance on fossil fuels as urgently as possible but realistically - this issue is for legislation. I fully agree your your sentiments but do NOT agree with your attack on ISO 14001.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is always a debate when an operation that is not environmentally friendly does ISO 14001.  Shell&#8217;s operation is no different.</p>
<p>My take on this is that to pass their audit the Company have to demonstrate that they comply with the law and all their license conditions and to embark on a cycle of continuous improvement.  This has to be good.</p>
<p>The Problem you are complaining about is that the regulators are permitting the activity, not that Shell is doing it in as responsible a way as possible.</p>
<p>Of course we all know that we must reduce our reliance on fossil fuels as urgently as possible but realistically &#8211; this issue is for legislation. I fully agree your your sentiments but do NOT agree with your attack on ISO 14001.</p>
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		<title>By: Make Money Repository &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shell&#8217;s Bizarre Definition Of Sustainability</title>
		<link>http://thesietch.org/mysietch/keith/2008/01/09/shells-bizarre-definition-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Make Money Repository &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shell&#8217;s Bizarre Definition Of Sustainability</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Unsuitablog wrote an interesting post today on Shell&#8217;s Bizarre Definition Of SustainabilityHere&#8217;s a quick excerptShell’s raison d’etre, as a corporation, is to make money, and it does that by selling oil&#8230;.   For more information, click here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Unsuitablog wrote an interesting post today on Shell&#8217;s Bizarre Definition Of SustainabilityHere&#8217;s a quick excerptShell’s raison d’etre, as a corporation, is to make money, and it does that by selling oil&#8230;.   For more information, click here [...]</p>
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